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: Hi Guys , Thanks for the great discussion, : Allow me to step in in a perhaps " stupid " fashion, but just from my experience with lecturing every spring over 3 ooo people who like sport , I would like to goive some very parctical info in plain language. : ( Orthostatic ? : We use the simple test of Rest heart rate flat on your back versus restheart rate up in a no motion position in your specicfique sport. : Example your nomral average rest heart rate over 2 weeks measured daily more or less on the same time with a rel. regular lifestyle. : ( So not reading the forum und think the whole night over some clever ideas ) : Rest HR flat : 53 average. : Rest heart rate in your sport . ( let.s take cycling ) would be sitting on your bike with doing nothing . ( Now that's kind of work because of balance , so we take a compromise on sitting on the windtrainer , but no arms on the handle bar. and now taking your HR. : Value normal : over the smae time and the same days as you measured the rest heart rate in bed is 84 . : Now changes in this values may indicate certain bodyreaction. What kind ? I am sure we get some good info about this , once we start thinking and more important try it out. Cheap easy and simple . : Part 2 : : Hi Cris, I may have overtrained may eyes with reading all your great info : Thanks. : Once I realiced ( I was biking and reading ) that I got kind of dizzy , I stopped and went for some strength stresses . : Remeber the discussion during your studies. : How do I improve eye vision . ( Pressure changes in your eyes during endurance training and strength. : A good info for all the biathletes reading this forum. : Summary : Long endurance training also changes the pressure in your eyes ( droppinmg ) versus strength , which increases the eye pressure. : There is some discussion in eye specialist ( out side the box ) whether you may see certain reaction in overtrained athletes . ? : Some thing to think about. ( Was a internal suggestion during last years camp in spain by a eyespecialist, ) : Part 3. : During some of Crises info I got an intersting articel in my hands. ( 12.30 mid night. ( that's right , so my resting HR was not good this morning. : Here I like to share this thoughts , to bring us back once in a while to the ground. It is from 1982 during the Annual meeting of the sports science Asso. in Victoria. : Eric Banister : : quote " " In the introduction to the 1971 volume on exercise physiology, Shepard warned of the dangers of an increasing population of exercise physiologists contributing an excess of (largely) insignificant information to a proliferation of specialist journals focussing on smaller and smaller areas of interest. "

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