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     Lordpat New member Username: Lordpat Post Number: 3 Registered: 11-2009 |
I received such a great response on the spleen dumping feedback that I extend another topic. I did a double blind study on this ATP supplement based on a protocol set up by the University of Connecticut which sent me the coded vials for the blood samples. The test lasted a year and resulted in seven racing standardbreds showing an average increase in ATP of 50 percent. It showed in the performance as well. Anywhere between a half second to four seconds on one skinny horse. The formula was sold to a well known thoroughbred owner for $1,500,000. He used it for many years with great success.He had given me a two year supply for my own horses. Here it is for your comments. The following composition of ingredients were developed by me and a marvelous chemist for the purpose of increasing the synthesis of ATP. I tested the resulting formulation on my race horses. The results were dramatic. That was twenty years ago. . I am once again involved in the racing business and would like to again produce this supplement for race horses. I would like to discuss the possibility of adding some additional ingredients that have been refined/developed in the past twenty years that would make the supplement more effecient. The supplement as it is listed below provided greater stamina and speed for all my horses' but if there are ways to improve the formula I would like to discuss the possibilities. The ingredients are: L-glycine 0.6kg L-arginine 2.4 kg D/L methionine 12.0kg Choline chloride 10.1kg Inositol 8.9kg L-aspartic acid 8.9kg L-tryptophan 2.6kg L-phenylalanine 2.1kg L-histidine 2.0kL L-proline 1.5kg D-ribose 8.9kg magnesioum phosphate 7.7kg Total 67.7kg There were fillers added to enhance the feeding process: lactalbumin:yeast culture: dried beet molasses: :Dicalcium phosphate: sodium bicarbonate:vitamin mix: lignan sulphate These fillers came to 996 kg. . I would like to add any reasonable ATP enhancing components based on present day science. I would add MSM and Inosine to the formula in any event . Gaylord Boutilier | ||
| Juerg Senior Member Username: Juerg Post Number: 2392 Registered: 04-2006 |
Hallo Gaylord, great and very interesting info: Why: In humans the traditional idea or better believe is, that after high intensity exercises or races, like a 2 minute race there is a so called O2 deficit. In my simple terms : There is no such thing like an O2 deficit in humans at any time, with exception when they are dead.. After a 100 m or 800 m run there is something I call IPOD. Easy to remember in our tech time. IPOD stands for = Intensive period of Oxygen delivery. Meaning , that after an 800 m run there is not an oxygen deficit in the cell but rather an ATP deficit. During the "survival " exercise ( race. The body used ATP and delivered ATP. The problem was, that the used ATP was much higher than the ability to deliver the needed and used ATP fast enough. This lead to a steady drop in ATP. First limitation was the amount and speed the O2 dependent sources ( FFA and Glucose together with O2 ) could deliver. Once they started to go into an ATP delivery deficit the body switched to O2 independent delivery help which than as well showed up as the bio marker lactate in the system. As we had to run still harder to survive even this systems could not maintain the full ATP level and the last chance we had was to take from the ATP source itself. This now started to drop and somewhere we reach a critical low ATP level , which does not allow us to go lower. That's when we hope we reached the cave or we caught up the piece of meat we where chasing . If not in any of the two cases life got harder. There may be different intracellular sensor, who may control the critical level of ATP like H+ Na / K and Ca delivery to be able to survive . Summary . The key is to reload as fast as possible ATP and if possible even "overload " pre start the ATP intracellular so we have in the last section of the race more ATP available as the rest of the field. One sign of reloading the ATP deficit is the heavy breathing in the cave after the "race" to a) pump CO2 out and balance as fast as possible the pH situation so to be able to run again if needed. b ) if not needed to start moving O2 into the areas, where O2 and FFA and glucose can be now used and have time to reload ATP back to the full level needed for optimal function and even super-compensate if possible.( Your Pre race warm up may actually just do that in a small way and could be easy assessed in humans with a PortaMon immediately during the race preparation. 2 versions may jump into the forefront. Higher mitochondria volumina better nutrition. |