Post Number: 42
|Posted on Monday, March 23, 2009 - 09:39 pm: |
Hi Juerg I just had a few general questions. I understood you worked with the 1984 silver medalist 5000m markus ryffel.
I was wondering how long did you work with him?
I was wondering if his training program was based on the same principles that are used in fact-canada?
Out of curiosity was what was his training program like and how it progressed over time?
You don't have to answer the third question I completely understand
Post Number: 1396
|Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 08:10 am: |
As so often , a world class athlete has not just one person as a consultant, but often is able to gather perfect information from his surounding.
I was one of the lucky guys, who could work or better benefit from the fact to be with and around Markus during a long time as he was a runner in the STB club.
His main mentor at the beginning of his carrier was Heinz Schild and later Dietmar Millonigs Brother.I was working at that time as coach and Physio therapist in the club and often got in contact with injuries and specific rehabilitation workouts with Markus as a part of an integrated Team work.
I was as well lucky to have been able to run running camps and testing and presentations with Markus Ryffel, Thomas Wessinghage and Dietmar Millonig.
At that time we had in The club a very strong Middle and lo ng distance group with People Like Bruno Lanfranchi. 2.11 Marathon runner at that time ( over 30 years back , but as well Olympic middle distance runner Peter Wirz ( LA Olympics ) and EWtienne Langutin.
So the sucess of any athlete is often a summation of information to individualize a program, and I consider myself lucky to be often at that time at the right place at the right time.
I work in that field over 8 years with this athletes and one of the interesting athletes and coaches I met was as well a teacher in my track classes . Jean Pierre Egger , the coach and mentor of Werner Gunthoer the Gold medal winner in Shot put.
I was at that time as well lucky, due to the co ntact with Markus and his group to see and observe workouts from Sebastian Coe and Said Aquita, but as well the Italian group around Pizzolato and Cova. So all this info and exposure are still helping to integrate tradition and new ideas into our systems.
Very interesting where the weeks we had the opportunity to work in Magglingen with Mike Boit of Kenya.
The training principles we use today are part of that time , mixed with many new ideas and information, we at that time could not gather.
Training is an evolution in itself in knowledge and in gathering new information.
There was now training program as it was an ongoing progression. There where many training blocks , whcih , depending on the progress and the athletes reaction would lead into the next block of ideas and tryouts.
There were and still are some classical ideas influenced by other coaches and athletes Markus met over time, like New Zealands John Walker and others.
Juerg Wirz a Journalist wrote a book ( " der Weg zur Weltklasse" and I was lucky to be a part of the co authores with writing and offering some inside view in the different aspects of traiing with youth and comparing certain workout aspects and the reactions on the body, with principles still okay tto this day.
So as so many past experience , the chance to see an athlete developping through the ranks, the overload injuries and the treatment of them are a big part to view after many years the sport and trainng more form different angles, than just fro time and performance. Cheers Juerg
Post Number: 43
|Posted on Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 03:15 pm: |
Very Interesting that you were able to work with Markus as his physiotherapist and coach. I few more questions
Just out of curiosity what type of injuries did Markus get? Was it typical running injuries?
Also what were his track workouts like?
Also what was it like to work with mike boit and observe sebastian coe and said aquita? How would you compare them in terms of running style and training completely different or similar?
What is Juerg Wirz book translated into english? Is that the one about paul tergat?
Thank you again
Post Number: 1397
|Posted on Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 09:06 pm: |
There are many "classical " running injuries , and here is just a list of some ( not complete and not ranged on appearance.
Achilles tendon irritation
Tuber ischiadicum irritation
Entesopathia in the pubis ramii.
and so on.
There are too many variation of track workout to name , and most of the workout did change and evolved, as the years went on, as we always tried to avoid adaptation .
As always , when you have achance to see high performance athletes live and in person , the simple key is just to listen and learn.
So each of the above athletes and many more are all personalities in their own world and have very different ideas and an outlook on live and there is nom difference between them and agroup in your neighbour hood. They are simply people like you and me with one in common, they strive like most of us to see , where they may reach their personal limitation and in the above cases it was in running, like your neighbour may try to reach in growing roses or playing a piano.
Juerg Wirz book has the titel " Der Weg zur Weltklasse " and is not translated into english.