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     Art_k82 Senior Member Username: Art_k82 Post Number: 78 Registered: 10-2009 |
I recently started to practice rhythmic breathing with a variety of patterns, in both the bike and run, and, also to a lesser extent, in the swim. For the first time ever, I am feeling respiratory muscle fatigue AFTER the sessions. This has manifested itself as a slight soreness/tightness during deep inhalation at rest. There is no soreness or tightness during exhalation. I've really been "forcing" myself to take in more air during training by breathing much deeper, and focusing on establishing a pattern. Question: is this type of "fatigue" (or soreness, or tightness) normal? I would imagine the respiratory muscles are like any other muscles, where, if they are subjected to an unnatural (currently unnatural, that is) usage pattern, they would be more tired. Like, if I decided to row, I am sure my arms would be very sore the next day. Or... am I doing something wrong? | ||
| Art_k82 Senior Member Username: Art_k82 Post Number: 79 Registered: 10-2009 |
Ok ok. I see that this question received no response. Perhaps it must seemed like I was asking for medical advice, which I wasn't. Here's an update on the situation. Last night was particularly difficult, as the tightness in the chest area did not let me sleep well. I missed a swim workout this morning. However, as the day went on, I practiced breathing deep and exhaling long and slowly at my desk in the office today. The tightness went away and by 5pm, I felt amazing - as if I grew another lung. I really felt like I was able to suck in more air than ever before. So, I went for short run today, around 42 minutes. I usually run this route in 45 minutes, with the same perceived effort. Note, I did not want to talk about HR, because I know that HR is not the best measure (FYI, the HR avg of this run was very close to the usual average). While this 3 minutes might be a statistical aberration, I wanted to say that I felt AMAZING on the run, with each breath being very deep and full. Seriously, like I said, it was as though I grew another lung. I wish I had the vital capacity numbers before and after the 10 days of this respiratory training regime (aka deep breaths everywhere). All I know is, that was an AMAZING run and while I am saving up for a Spirotiger, the breathing exercises is definitely one way to get around respiratory muscle weakness. | ||
| Art_k82 Senior Member Username: Art_k82 Post Number: 80 Registered: 10-2009 |
Here’s another workaround for respiratory training for swimmers and triathletes. I have found this to be quite useful. First, you should purchase a front mounted snorkel, and then add one of these: http://www.finisinc.com/P-105022/Finis+S norkel+Cardio+Cap+(white) Again, while you might not reap all the benefits of the Spirotiger, I have the feeling that it really allows for respiratory training. If you don’t want to work the peripheral system at the same time, you should use a pull buoy and rubber band around the ankles (to prevent kicking), and use long swim strokes to keep heart rate down. Try to breathe fully and exhale fully as well. | ||
| Juerg Senior Member Username: Juerg Post Number: 2324 Registered: 04-2006 |
Thanks Art , when you look up about 11/2 year back under the Russian respiratory idea you see, where this idea is comming from just much cheaper than the russian model. We ordered one and tested it here. | ||
| Juerg Senior Member Username: Juerg Post Number: 2325 Registered: 04-2006 |
Novoe dykhanie respiratory muscle exe... type this in the search part and you have the info. | ||
| Art_k82 Senior Member Username: Art_k82 Post Number: 81 Registered: 10-2009 |
I found the thread for our readers: http://www.fact-canada.com/discus/messag es/43/2261.html?1231520235 | ||
| Juerg Senior Member Username: Juerg Post Number: 2326 Registered: 04-2006 |
Art I see, what you meant with the question of "soreness" after respiratory workouts. Yes people , who use or overuse the Spiro Tiger once the start working out describe a very interesting " soreness" like a HR - belt around their thorax which is most likley the origin of your diaphragm. If they really concentrate on diaphragm breathing . If they do , as so many do a full workout all out and they use the auxiliary muscle groups they are sore everywhere including the neck muscles. That would be considered not the optimal way to try to improve inspiration, as they just work all out with the same muscles they already use in a normal race or hard workout. That's why they have respiratory limitation in the first place.It would be the same as in running , when you sit and not use your gluteal muscles for hip extension but only your hamstrings group. That's the difference between training and just pushing high intensity workouts, as well that is the difference between a smart Interval for metabolic and specific struktural stimulation of certain systems versus all out to train the wrong pattern even more. |