Post Number: 2888
|Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 - 12:58 pm: |
This is from a web site dealing with some specific training programs.
It is the first time where we see on an official website the recognition, that breathing actually may need oxygen and therefor may take away O2 from working muscles.
. Thanks for this info.
But where we still would disagree is that the lungs need O2.
We would rather argue that the respiratory muscles, who fill up the lungs with air and empty the lungs from air need oxygen , as this are muscles like any other muscle and need O2 to create O2 dependent ATP.
Here the part for you to read and make up your own mind.
" Oxygen Distribution
An increase in the work of breathing shifts the oxygen delivery away from the exercising musculature. The lungs require a larger portion of total oxygen, leaving less available for distribution to the working muscle"
In our words ( Dempsey ) we would call it metaboreflex.
Post Number: 2896
|Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 12:57 am: |
And here where we are this days in europe and Spiro Tiger as a tool for training and respiratory work.
http://www.issdichfittv.ch/people-lifest yle/issdichfittv-ch/issdichfittv-flori-l ang-wissenschaft
Post Number: 45
|Posted on Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - 02:40 pm: |
Great Juerg, if I only could understand swiss.
Do you have a coles notes discussion on what Chrisitna Spengler spoke about.
Great to see the Spiro, and other training tools.
My feeling is that there is a usefulness for PL / PB in respiratory training in the same way that we do endurance training and strength training with our athletes.
Post Number: 2899
|Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2010 - 12:50 am: |
Well Christina Spengler is possibly the most advanced respiratory scientists out there and yes her different research are really fascinating to read and opens a whole new world of follow up questions.
Why do we not have all this info here in north America.
I think one of the main reason is very simple.
Relative narrow view on research paper . What is not in english seem not to exists. Therefor many many great studies from Italy , Switzerland, Norway and so on are simply not existing here. That's why we see so many duplication's from great work done in Germany and east Germany in teh late 1970 beginning 1980 on interval and LSD. Now this studies show up here again marked as new but nice to see, that the findings are similar despite 40 years later and that in many cases the available technology did not get used yet. Still 4 mmol as the key of anaerobic threshold. Still VO2 max and % to calculate intensity in heterogeneous groups and so on.
This despite the great progress and infos we have this days from the work of Brooks / Gladden and more on this very intriguing field of metabolic energy production.
We know , that based on some English studies people , who speak more than 2 languages seems to have less likely Alzheimer's ( Smile ) so let's start an additional language. Vielleicht hilf dies wirklich.
Oui vous n'acceptez pas , may c'est vrai ?????
Hmmm may have to practice un peux plus in franzosisch.